Ackley Improved
13 posts
Nov 20, 2004
1:39 AM
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Hi all
I have chosen the BAT Model SB 14oct (octagonal)dual port (right bolt, left feed, right ejection).
Is this the right Model for the Br?
Or should I go the Stiller Viper?
Thanks
Ackley Improved
Last Edited by Ackley Improved on Nov 20, 2004 5:44 AM
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Kav
2 posts
Nov 20, 2004
8:33 AM
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I think either is a great action and both companies have good customer service so look at the features/cost and go with what works for you. I persoanlly use Stillers Viper for I am very fond of the drop port, makes brass maganagement a breeze and no ejector to tune, just works by gravity.
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Moderator
106 posts
Nov 20, 2004
9:16 PM
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You won't go wrong with a BAT or Stiller, or for that matter a Stolle, Hall, Nesika etc. We've been through this decision-making process ourselves for a project gun for the site and ended up selecting a BAT action. We went with the MB (medium with extended front) because this seemed the best option for a switch barrel rig (6mm BR / 6.5-284). For a dedicated short action, the price of the Stiller and the drop port are definite advantages, and the Stiller comes with Rings AND trigger guard in the price.
Between the short actions, I think you really need to decide between aluminum and steel and then look at the options. Many of the 6PPC guys think the Farley is among the very best SS actions because it is very smooth.
When you do order an action, if it's primarily for bench use, consider a left port, right eject. We'll be showing a Hall-actioned gun soon that's set up with this configuration. It is set up with an oversized right eject port so you can easily tip out the brass while loading with your left hand.
Last Edited by Moderator on Nov 20, 2004 9:17 PM
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Ackley Improved
14 posts
Nov 20, 2004
10:07 PM
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Moderator.. or anyone for that matter... what is the disadvantages/advantages of aluminium and stainless steel in a action other than weight?
What in the decision making process made you decide on a BAT action above all others??
Is it worth myself going to a MB model in a BAT as well, or stick with the SB?
It is a big decision to make what action to go with. The viper with drop port left feed definitely sounds good. Maybe the Viper is the choice.... What do you think? I want to do this right the first time, as anyone would. Please help me with my decision making here!!!
The rifle will be used for benchrest only.....
The barrel will be a HART Max. HV 28 inches 8 twist and the stock made by Mastin, in a Tracker style.
Last Edited by Ackley Improved on Nov 20, 2004 10:19 PM
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Ackley Improved
17 posts
Nov 21, 2004
5:12 AM
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Ching Ching (thats a cash register sound) BAT it is.. If you have talked to many gunsmiths and they have nothing bad to say about the BAT... what can I say...........
So you think the BAT in the SB model (Octagonal) will be my new action for the 6mm Br??? (right bolt/left port/right ejection)
That drop port has me really intrigued on the Viper though!!
What do you think of the Aussie built stock picture I posted??
Thanks a million Moderator!!!!
Oh yeah, the rifle will be a comp. benchgun in the light class of course! Although a bench might make its way out in the paddocks for some fox and bunny popping!
Ackley Improved
Last Edited by Ackley Improved on Nov 21, 2004 5:19 AM
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RCole
19 posts
Nov 21, 2004
7:12 PM
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Any time you add a port to an action, do you not reduce the rigidity of the action?
Just a thought. I agree that you must have at least one port, but that is all I would want and it only needs to be big enough to get the cartridge in and out of the action.The Viper drop port was an effort to increase the speed of loading while "gunning them down". I can understand the concept, but being a prone shooter, I must wait for the target to cycle, make the decision on windage, and then shoot.It may simply be my frame of reference, one port seems adequate.
However, I could be wrong.
RCole
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Ackley Improved
20 posts
Nov 21, 2004
11:18 PM
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The stock
Around the $1000 Australian. Thats adjustable cheek piece, thumbhole, barrel vent fully finished!
Masterclass stock would be nice??
Ackley Improved
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jb1000br
1000yd Editor
55 posts
Nov 22, 2004
9:58 AM
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You say BR only right?
This means the faster you can shoot in a contition, the BETTER...unless you are one he!! of a wind reader--which i am not.
so i choose to run my rounds ASAPP
the only thing that would speed up my RBLP viper is a drop port--which unfortunately isnt available for the longer rounds (6.5-284)
for the 6br--the drop port would be absolute lighning! especially in a RBLP like i have.
a buddy is building a RBRP drop port in a BR, so i can finally see one in action (pun intended :D)
plus i like the flat serrated bedding surface.
hope this doesnt throw a wrench into your plan :D
either way you cant go wrong.
Also--Stillers bolts are hard chromed for those of us that have acidic hands ;)
JB
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RCole
21 posts
Nov 22, 2004
4:00 PM
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I am helping an transplanted Aussie to build a palma gun on a Viper action. He he chose the Viper in part due to the reputation of the Viper and in part on my urging. You see, Stiller is "sort of down the road".Vipers are smooth as glass and light so to speak.
RCole
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Ackley Improved
22 posts
Nov 22, 2004
4:38 PM
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Hi
How things change............
I have done away with the BAT and have decided on a Viper. The drop port has sold me. Right bolt, left port, drop port.
The stock has changed as well.... Shehane Tracker ST1000 thumbhole. Colour????? Hmmmmmmm. Dont know yet!
Also, the caliber has changed... I know you's didnt want to hear that... I have just gone from a 6mm Br to a 6mm Remington AI, Naaaaa I didnt, going the 6mm Dasher.... Had you's there!!!
Decided on the Dasher due to the well said accuracy in fire forming cases. Will still be able to shoot not wasting ammo during a boring job.
So...... 6mm Dasher reamer in Australia?????
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paul
30 posts
Nov 23, 2004
12:13 AM
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Where are you going to get your Stiller action from? I guess you know that PSECO can source them. John may also have an improved 6br reamer of some sort.
http://www.members.optushome.com.au/johnhgiles/whats_new.htm#STILLER
Paul
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Ackley Improved
23 posts
Nov 23, 2004
2:10 AM
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Paul..
Thanks for that. I have sent an email off to PSECO asking about the Vipers....and a 6mm Dasher reamer..
However, I will be using another rifle builder to build the rifle. I am happy with what my current rifle builder has built for me....So I'll stick with him.
Thanks
Ackley Improved
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